Monthly Archives: October 2010
A Proud Moment in My Ministry
A user on the social bookmarking site Delicious.com has tagged my article defending the ordering of mass genocide in the Bible by God. His brief description of the article is: “Genocide. Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Infants?” (His Bible page is right here.)
That certainly refuted my article. I’d love to engage this guy, but I can’t find a way to contact him.
We Can’t Win, Apparently
Loftus once wrote:
We abhor someone who is supposed to decide between two parties who also has a conflict of interest. That person could be a trustee of an estate, a judge, or a principal. We want a fair and impartial judgment. We want a fair ruling. So arguing against the Outsider Test for Faith is like arguing against a fair and impartial ruling. It is to argue against what is intuitively obvious to everyone else and consequently makes believers look very bad, because we abhor what they try to argue against. That is, even arguing against the OTF tells an outsider there is something badly wrong with the Christian faith. (source)
So, we can’t win. If we ignore the test, that proves its validity. If we engage the test, that proves its validity. From this point forward, John is no longer allowed to talk about how religion can’t be falsified.
Dude Just PROVED He Was Never a Christian
William Thatcher faces a dilemma in A Knight’s Tale. Unless you are of noble birth, you can’t compete in sports. So William says that he’s a noble. Eventually, it’s discovered that he’s the son of a local thatcher, he’s arrested, and is disqualified from further participation. Apparently, there’s qualifications for being a noble. You can’t just say you’re a noble.
I’m a writer. I knit words together into sentences, and those are stitched into paragraphs. These words convey arguments or paint vivid word pictures. Someone could claim to be a writer, but write in all lowercase letters, run-on sentences, a single block paragraph, and ramble for 200 pages without really saying anything at all. No argument was made, no description painted, no story told. Such a person would not be considered a writer; so again, we see that certain criteria must be met to claim that title.
And so it is with any label. In fact, there are actually severe penalties for claiming that you have certain labels if you do not. You cannot claim to be a police officer unless you are a sworn law enforcement professional. Same for claiming the title of doctor when you are not a physician.
My point: to call yourself X, you must meet the prerequisites of X. It is not enough to simply declare yourself X.
Yet, apply that same logic to the label of “Christian” and you get accused of the “No True Scotsman” fallacy. In the mind of the skeptic, it’s sufficient for a person to say, “I’m a Christian!” If a person claims Christianity, then he is a Christian. No other prerequisites necessary.
Over at the blog for Why Won’t God Heal Amputees?, you see a very similar argument in the comments of this post. A commenter named Joe (who claimed to once have been a born-again Christian), regarding the Christian view that homosexuality is a sin, writes:
If there were a God, he would not want his church to make people so unhappy and affect peoples’ lives so negatively. I would not wish such a “therapy” to my worst enemy (if I had any).
A commenter named Rostam tells Joe that he wasn’t ever a born-again Christian. Joe replies:
When I was 15 I gave my life to the Lord. In the following years, I led other people to the Lord, prayed for the sick, spoke in tongues, was a worship leader in my church and even attended a 1-year bible school to prepare me for further ministry. I can truly say I was as honest and sincere about my faith as everybody else.
Sound familiar? It should. Jesus once said:
Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?” And then will I declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” (Mt 7:21-23, emphasis added)
The mark of the Christian is how much Jesus’ lordship of your mind, body, and soul has transformed you from the inside out. How has he changed your way of thinking, of looking at the world? It’s not about what works you have done. Yet, when accused of not being a Christian, the first thing Joe does is defend himself by listing his works. Not the strongest defense.
Obviously, since Joe believes that homosexuality is correct behavior and demonizes anyone who disagrees with that position, Christ never changed him from the inside out. His ear was never inclined to the word of God. So I agree with the assessment proffered by Rostam. Joe was a Christian in name only, but he never let it truly enter his being. He never let the message transform him. He never became the new creation that Paul promises we who take our faith seriously will become.
And by listing his works as a defense, he becomes the hypothetical individual that Jesus speaks of in Matthew 7, but he doesn’t even realize it. This proves that Joe may have read the message, and he may have behaved in a way that would suggest he was a Christian, but he never actually digested the message.
Did God Dictate Morals, or Did Morals Evolve?
Custador, one of the bloggers at Unreasonable Faith, thinks he’s solved the problem of morals in a single question:
Are right and moral acts and deeds right and moral because God says that they’re right and moral, or does God say that right and moral deeds are right and moral because they are inherently right and moral? (source)
He believes the answer is hidden option number 3: “Human societal norms are evolved and God has nothing to do with it. Doesn’t that rather neatly solve the problems with options one and two?”
It doesn’t solve anything, because the objection raised is seriously misguided:
Option one (right and moral acts and deeds are right and moral because God says that they’re right and moral) logically leads to the conclusion that God could say that anything is right and moral, including (for example) genocide, child rape, slavery, cruel and unusual punishment… Would anybody ever agree that these things are right and moral? I don’t think so – and yet they’re right there in the Bible – some of them as instructions from God himself. I guess that rules out option one!
God neither commanded child rape (this has been repeatedly demonstrated to be eisegesis) or slavery (laws are in place governing it, but are also in place for murder–are you seriously arguing that because laws exist prescribing penalties for murder that God endorses it?). The protection from cruel and unusual punishment is both a Western ideal and subjective. The problem is really one of nature: nothing uncreated exists apart from God; God created everything. This includes natural laws, i.e. what is inherently good is also under God’s sovereign purview. That means that our own conceptions of goodness, rightness, or morality can’t be used to define or judge God. But that is exactly what Custador is doing in this objection.
Instead, God defines those characteristics by his very nature. Goodness, righteousness, and morality proceed from God’s character and are inviolate characteristics of God’s own nature. Evil, unrighteousness, and immorality are the darkness that try to cover the light; they are the absence of the good traits present in God.
This means that God wouldn’t command an unrighteous act. What may seem capricious or cruel to us serves a divine purpose we either aren’t privy to, or we refuse to entertain because of the darkness within us. The second option is more likely.
The darkness refuses to yield so we can clearly see that the “genocide” of the Canaanites (and others) was a righteous judgment of a sinful people, pronounced by a holy God. We know well the depths of our own depravity, and quickly realize that if held to a holy and perfect standard, we deserve nothing less than what the Canaanites got.
Common to objections raised by atheists, Custador posits a conception of God on the level of the creature: bound by time, space, and constrained by inviolate laws woven into the fabric of the universe. This is a subpar definition of God, and leaves wide open the question of who wove those laws into the fabric of the universe in the first place. If it was a force or being superior to God, then God isn’t God at all.
If you start with God, and realize that he, as the good, defines all that is good in relation to himself (rather than be defined by our faulty conception of it), then you realize that God wouldn’t order an unrighteous act and all that he commands is good and holy. But that requires stepping out in faith (read: trust, not “belief without evidence”). If you trust that God is as he reveals himself in the Bible, then this leap of faith is easy to make.
All that said, can atheists be moral without God? I’ll explain why I don’t think so tomorrow.
I Shouldn’t Find this Funny
I really shouldn’t find this amusing in the least.
Interesting that I also found this AutocompleteMe faux pas in the same day.
H/T to Luke of Common Sense Atheism.
Show #4: Questions for Christians IIa
I’ve decided to try to do a podcast each week, on Friday. I seem to have enough material. Today’s episode rebuts Doug Crews on the first question from his list that I covered in two parts last week. Then I move on to some more questions, this time from our “friends” at ex-Christian.net. The list in question was written in 2003, but I’m betting that none of the questions have been satisfactorily answered–at least in the opinion of the ex-Christians on that site–so I decided to take a crack. As usual, I’ve sent an e-mail to the original author of the list to invite a response.
I’ve sent out an open invitation on Facebook to any LOCAL Christians who would like to give some answers to upcoming questions I’m planing on covering. Let’s face it, my voice gets old after a while. Hopefully I get some takers!
Anyway, you can download this week’s episode here. I hope you enjoy!
How to Make Your Christian Writing Anything But, part II
In my previous post, I took a peek at six of the twelve points that the Resurgence cites as ways to turn Christian writing into anti-Christian writing. Unfortunately, I’m guilty on some points. Let’s look at the final six.
Hell is real, but don’t let that concern you or your hearers and readers. It’s more important to have a good theology of evangelism than to actually tell others about Jesus, his cross, and his resurrection.
Actually, I think that it is more important to talk about the cross and the Resurrection than it is to mention hell. I don’t think that hell is really the best way to evangelize. It shouldn’t be avoided completely, but neither should it be over-stressed.
People just aren’t comfortable with a judging God. Most likely because people know, at the core, that they have sinned and are under condemnation. Instead of browbeating them with that, let’s focus on what God has done through Christ.
But we’d just be unkind if we didn’t talk about hell at all. People also need to understand the consequences of their choices.
Talk about technique a lot, because techniques are concrete. Miracles like regeneration, God turning haters into lovers, and the fruit of the Spirit are too abstract to be helpful.
Here we see Christianity capitulating to culture. Scientism seems to be creeping its way into the popular culture. People are believing the lie that they can only know what they can touch, taste, smell, or see.
Scientism is a philosophy, not a scientific conclusion. Since philosophies can’t be proven, only believed, scientism refutes itself. If you believe scientism, you’re already being inconsistent.
Everyone believes something on the basis of pragmatism alone, in the absence of empirical evidence. Everyone. Our minds are capable of knowing and understanding things in the abstract, without requiring evidence of their existence.
That means that speaking of love, hate, or the fruits of the Spirit are helpful. Speaking on technique is good, too, but sometimes it is necessary to speak of the abstract.
Guilt is a great motivator. Use it wisely.
I think we all know someone who falls into this category. I’ll move on.
In their sanctification, people should fake it till they make it. Tell them how.
Believing something on the basis of pragmatism is vital to constructing a coherent worldview. Obviously, you can’t see some of the abstractions that underlie your philosophies. If you hold to a theistic worldview, where the material plane is a battlefield for angels and demons influencing the minds and hearts of humans, you can’t see the immaterial beings nor can you see the deity, so pragmatism comes to the forefront in determining the rationality of your suppositions.
But pragmatism is not a good measure of the effectiveness of the gospel, nor is sanctification ever going to work if you fake it until you make it.
The New Testament consistently refers to the church as “the Bride of Christ.” In marriage, you are giving yourself wholly and completely to your spouse; that goes for husbands as well as wives. It is expected that you will put your bride first in all your considerations. Everything should change, and this is meant to be a permanent change.
So it should be in giving yourself to Christ. It should bring wholehearted change into your life. You won’t be the same person afterwords. The Bible declares the faithful a new creation. Just telling people to “fake it until you make it” doesn’t do justice to the gospel, and it trivializes Christ’s promises to make you whole.
Be condescending. Make sure your theology is un-gracious in content and tone.
Yeah, I know, this is my deepest sin in writing this blog. Anyone who wants to throw it in my face, go ahead. Search some past posts. I’m sure you can find plenty of examples of me being ungracious to commenters. But I’m going to really try to move past it, and give my apologetic answers with gentleness and reverence. No more sarcastic bite.
People really want Good Advice instead of Good News, so be a people-pleaser and only give lots of advice.
Yes, Joel Osteen, we are looking at you!
Related Articles
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How to Make Your Christian Writing Anything But, part I
The folks over at the Resurgence have a great article on how to turn Christian writing into anti-Christian writing. They’ve itemized twelve errors, some of which I’ve fallen into. Let’s take a look at the first six.
Downplay the law of God and his grace. Tell people God is not that angry about cosmic treason, and grace isn’t that amazing.
It’s nice that they’ve started off with something that I, too, have railed against. It’s fairly common among skeptics (and far too many Christians!) to get really bent out shape when we mention God’s Law. Most of the resistance comes when we talk about punishment (hell is discussed later in this list). But the revulsion is inevitably there.
We can’t let that deter us.
It’s really important that our hearers understand both law and grace. The Law exists, and we ignore it at our peril. Both Paul and Peter charge us to act like we’re called by God to do great things! Simultaneously, we have to understand that the great things we’re called to do do not add anything to our salvation. We do them because they are the moral thing to do, and acting in accordance with our new, heavenly nature brings glory to God.
Don’t mention God the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit. Assume that people already know enough about them.
I’ve probably fallen into this trap. I tend to mention “God” without actually defining that concept in a particularly trinitarian fashion. God isn’t a nebulous concept, but a personal being with whom we can have a real, dynamic, give-and-take relationship with. I should mention the relationship of the divine Persons more often so that readers get a better grasp on who’s who in the Trinity.
“The Little Engine That Could” should be the foundation of your theology.
Another one that I’ve railed against: you can’t possibly read the Bible and come away with the understanding that you can do it on your own, if you only think positively! The Bible wants us to depend more on God, and less on ourselves.
This is Word-Faith theology, or Name-It-and-Claim-It. If you believe enough in yourself, anything is possible! Makes a great self-help book, but it isn’t biblical Christianity by any stretch of the imagination.
Remember that God is passive, so you better be really active… or else.
Orthodoxy (right belief) is very important. Orthopraxy (right practice) is also very important. But a balance must exist. Only Jesus can save you.
If you think that God saves only those who remain faithful to the end of their days under their own power and who do their own good works, you have Pelagianism: salvation by works.
This is related to the next error, which leans on orthodoxy to save you.
Remember, no other Christians get it right except for your tribe, of which you should be chief.
Yeah, I’ve done this. A lot. I resisted Calvinism at first because I thought that Calvinists were intellectual snubs. Then I realized the biblical truth of Calvinism, and became a passionate Calvinist–and an intellectual snub!
The rub of it is that I should consider myself a Christian first, and a Calvinist second (if at all). I was saved from the moment that I professed faith in Jesus for my salvation, and renounced the use of my own faculties to obtain God’s favor. I didn’t become “more saved” the day I read Chosen by God and realized the Sproul was conveying the absolute biblical truth.
A Christian relies only on Jesus for salvation, and seeks a cooperative sanctification by God in order to become like Christ. Nothing more, nothing less.
If a person believes that only the Calvinist is saved because he properly understands predestination as an unconditional choosing of God’s people by God for God, then you have gnosticism: salvation by secret knowledge.
All denominations (including we Calvinists) seem to lean to far one way or the other. Orthodoxy is important. So is orthopraxy. But they are designed to compliment each other, not to compete with each other. Striking a balance is important to the life of the Christian.
Only use Scripture as a proof-text—don’t actually teach it.
Now this is an error that I fall into quite often. I tend to propose most of my own philosophies on this blog, and back them up by using relevant Scripture passages. Never do I exegete a passage from the text.
I’ve been considering for a while doing just that. From time to time, maybe each Sunday, selecting a passage of text from Scripture and actually run through it verse-by-verse and expound on the deep, spiritual meanings of it. Kind of like a written sermon.
I could even “preach through” an entire book, section by section, each Sunday. That would help me understand it better, and it would definitely give my unbelieving readers a more through understanding of Scripture.
So far, it looks like I commit as many errors as I rail against. So I’m coming out nearly 50-50 after six. Tomorrow, I’ll look at the remaining six, and I’m hoping that I do better!
Change to Comment Policy
Few people read the static pages on this blog, so I want to call out an important addition to the comment policy:
I read all comments that are posted, however, at this time I am unable to respond to each one. I’m not intentionally ignoring comments. The recent expansion into other media (video, podcasting, e-books, group blogging) has cut my time very short. I will try to respond to as many comments as I can, but I can’t make a promise that I will respond to each and every comment.
Comments will automatically close on posts that are older than 30 days.
I am expanding into other media: production of YouTube videos, podcasting, writing (and selling?) e-books, and I contribute to a new group blog. All of these must be updated regularly or else I stand the chance to lose potential audience. Therefore, while I promise to read all of the comments, I can’t promise to answer all of them. I will do my best to answer comments that pique my interest and I believe will create a worthy discussion.
Please don’t stop commenting! But don’t be discouraged if I don’t always reply.
Answers to Tough Questions #1-3
In my recent podcast, I told a lie.
I said that the first three videos in the series answering Shawn, aka “azsuperman01” were up. That’s because when I recorded the introduction, the videos were written but not recorded or produced. I had planned to record and produce those videos prior to the podcast “airing.” Well, that didn’t happen.
So, finally, I have gotten around to producing the videos. Here they are:
Question #1: When Can God Forgive?
Question #2: Crimes of Mankind
Question #3: Free Will