You really have to love Vjack, proprietor of Atheist Revolution. He has no concept of how to interpret the Bible, as I have shown in numerous previous posts. I’ve proven him wrong about certain specific interpretations of the passages (yet he continues to promulgate the same interpretations of these passages). Now, he has posted an article that shows he has absolutely zero understanding of how Christian morality works. Here’s the highlight:
With the idea of karma, there is a certain inevitability of justice. If one screws up enough in life, there is no forgiveness and no absolution of “sin” gained by repeated hail Mary’s. No deathbed confessions will save your ass. Your fate will be determined by your own behavior, just as it should be. The various Christian denominations seem determined to offer short-cuts – ways to get away with sin.
In a karma-based system, there are no short-cuts. However, there are plenty of second chances. One has an eternity to get it right, but one must change one’s behavior in order to do so. No amount of belief is going to cut it.
In other words, Christians can live whatever sort of life they choose, but if they profess belief in Jesus Christ, they’re going to heaven. That’s crap, and even someone with a Sunday school knowledge of theology knows it.
This leads me to believe that Vjack lacks even a basic Sunday school knowledge of Christianity. He likely wasn’t raised in it, but it seems (from reading his blog) that he has many family and friends that are Christian. It would seem that he should have a deeper understanding of Christianity. But, alas, that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Mere mental assent to the person and work of Jesus Christ is enough to save a person, but not enough to send him to heaven. Satan and his angels mentally assent to the person and work of Jesus Christ, but they are not saved and are not going to go to heaven, as Revelation clearly states.
Paul, the one that many people “blame” for popularizing the idea of salvation by grace through faith, makes reference to judgment based on works and to not continue in sin so that grace may abound. James says that faith without works is dead–it won’t save anyone. The Acts of the Apostles portrays all of the apostles calling for people to repent and be baptized. The Gospels begin with John the Baptist calling for the same thing: repent and be baptized. Paul further declares that we are a new creation in Christ, and urges us to throw off the old and bring in the new, as well as exhorting us to offer ourselves as living sacrifices to God’s service.
Are we faced with a contradiction here? Vjack’s answer would undoubtedly be “Yes, we are.” But we’re not. We are simply confusing one’s salvation with one’s sanctification. Salvation occurs once, the moment when a person makes a sincere profession of faith in Jesus Christ. Sanctification, on the other hand, is an ongoing process that will likely last the rest of the new Christian’s life. Sanctification is the process of becoming more Christ-like; of walking in Jesus’ footsteps, of absorbing his teachings and applying them to everyday life, and of becoming closer to the Father. Jesus as much as promises that this will not be an easy thing. In fact, he predicts that this will bring persecution, much trial, and even split up families.
Christianity, therefore, is about faith in Jesus first and foremost. But it is also about understanding that humans owe loyalty to God and therefore must repent of their former sins and lead righteous lives. Not because of a promised reward in heaven, but because it is the right thing to do while on earth. God commands it, and we must do it.
I was really angry when I first read Vjack’s post. My anger was directed at Vjack himself, for criticizing something he clearly doesn’t understand in the least. But, after a short (very short) cooling off period, I asked myself, “Where would he even get this notion that Christianity teaches something like this?” And it didn’t take long to arrive at the answer: Popular Christian Preachers.
I really can’t be mad at Vjack for believing that this is what Christianity teaches when there are so many popular preachers who mislead thousands of souls into believing that this is what Christianity teaches. They teach that Christianity is, as Vjack put it, a short cut to salvation. The teach easy-believism: once the “heaven ticket” is punched by declaring faith in Jesus Christ, you’re free to live a life of your own choosing and you’ll still make it to heaven in the end because you’re saved.
As Vjack astutely observes, that teaching fits well into United States culture. We are all about short cuts. We are all about finding the fastest way from point A to point B, especially when it doesn’t disrupt anything in our comfortable little lives.
But Christianity is meant to challenge a person outside his comfort zone. It is supposed to disrupt our comfortable existence. That sort of message wouldn’t preach well in the United States, so that’s why so many preachers dumb down the message and completely leave out all components that have to do with repentance and obedience to God. It’s more about filling the pews than it is about offering a life-changing message.
Vjack’s post, more than just exposing his ignorance of the teachings of Christianity, is actually an indictment of modern pop-Christianity. Many of the most popular preachers teach just the sort of easy-believism that fuel Vjack’s uninformed perspective of Christianity.
Posted on December 6, 2009, in Apologetics, God, Heresy, Morality and tagged atheism. Bookmark the permalink. 7 Comments.
So wait, if someome is saved but not going to heaven, what happens to them?
They burn in hell, but its one degree colder than it is for those pagan Arminians!
You seem to ignore what Vjack is referring to; that by asking Jesus for forgiveness you have a shortcut for when you fall short, regardless of the sin itself. Going off on a sanctified tangent is going off in the wrong direction all-together. This is *not* karma, this is asking for a favor out of the kindness of their hearts regardless of what has been done, supposedly always granted. Every Sunday school kid knows *that*.
“The various Christian denominations seem determined to offer short-cuts – ways to get away with sin.”
You don’t believe this is the case? It certainly is what we hear most often: “I’m saved by faith alone. No matter what I do I’m still going to heaven.” Whether or not your clergy means for us to understand this as what they teach (they always claim you misunderstand when you call them on it) it is clearly exactly what the laity takes from their sermons. Clearly, therefore, there is something wrong with the message the clergy delivers and how they deliver it. Or are you also one of them and just doing what they do when they get caught?
“Vjack’s post, more than just exposing his ignorance of the teachings of Christianity, is actually an indictment of modern pop-Christianity.”
What is “modern pop-Christianity”? Why it’s Calvinism! “You’re elect so just sit back and sin sin sin and God will just magically save you by waving his wands of irresistible grace and once-saved-always-saved! No need to repent! No need to be moral! Go rape, pilage, kill, steal! Do whatever you want! You’re elect, so your ticket is punched!”
“Many of the most popular preachers teach just the sort of easy-believism that fuel Vjack’s uninformed perspective of Christianity.”
Like yourself and your Calvinism. The problem is clearly OSAS. When you tell people that no matter what they do they’re still saved, why would they bother repenting and trying to live right if they believed your Satanic lie?
The most authentic Pauline statement in Romans is clearly Romans 2:6-11, God will render to every man according to his deeds: To those who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality–eternal life. But to those that are contentious and do not obey the truth but rather obey unrighteousness–indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that works evil, to both Jews and Gentiles; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that works good, to both Jews and Gentiles; For there is no partiality with God.” But the Catholic editor has added to this authoritative statement by The Apostle, all the wrangling and mangling eisogesis of the Old Testament that establishes easy-believism. “Abraham was saved before circumcision, therefore he was saved without works, and therefore we are saved by faith alone.” Come again? That is certainly a mangling of the OT, for Abraham did obey Yahweh in leaving his homeland, and how can we say he was not justified by this but by faith alone? We cannot. This is the Catholic editor twisting the OT as passing it off as Paul. (2nd century Catholic I mean.)