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Why I’m Not Roman Catholic

Posted by Cory Tucholski on April 20, 2009

James White had a very thoughtful post on the theological issues that underlie the decision to be or not to be Roman Catholic. Reading that post, as well as listening to his extended Dividing Line podcast has led me back into the fold of Calvinism, which I believe is a very good thing. I need to solidify my theology if I expect to defend it against outsiders.

But it leaves me with the question of why I’m Reformed and not something else, like Roman Catholic. Regular readers of this blog will recall that I was raised Catholic–baptized and confirmed. So why am I not still Catholic?

I’m not Catholic for four very important theological reasons: dispensing of grace by sacraments, veneration of saints and Mary, the Eucharist, and the alleged infallibility of the Pope. I simply cannot agree to the Roman theology behind these three items.

I’ve found recently in two snippets from the news and the book Justification by Hans Kung that the Roman view of justification is essentially the same as the Reformed view. I admit that I haven’t read Justification carefully enough, but I’m assured that that is the conclusion of the book. Man is justified before God solely on the basis of grace through faith, plus nothing. That is the Reformed view as well as the Catholic view.

However, Catholicism differs from the Reformed view of grace significantly. Grace is dispensed through the sacraments in Catholicism. In the Reformed view, it is God’s discretion upon whom grace is given; in other words, it is a free gift and not of works (Eph 2:8-10). Since grace is unmerited favor, it makes no sense that one has to work for it in the Roman view. On the other hand, the Reformed view makes much more sense; God bestows grace upon whom he will (see Rom 9).

Worshiping anyone or anything other than God is idolatry; Scripture makes that clear (see, for example, this post from TurretinFan). Therefore, I see no justification for the veneration of saints, angels, or the Virgin Mary that one sees in Romanism.

The rubber justification that the Romanists often use is that they only pay latria to God, while offering dulia to the saints and Mary. Latria is pure worship, while dulia is more like a deep reverence. This is a distinction without a difference. One should err on the side of caution, especially in light of the first commandment’s harsh penalty proscriptions for idolatry.

Consider the severe punishments that God pronounces on the entire nation of Israel for her disobedience and idolatry. Consider the judgments of the pagan nations in the Promised Land due to their idolatry. This is something that God takes very seriously. As an extension, so should we!

The Eucharist is a fancy form of idolatry. The Eucharist isn’t merely a symbol of the body and blood of Christ; in Romanism, it becomes the body and blood of Christ, and therefore an object to be worshiped. Worshiping bread and wine is idolatry, regardless of what it symbolizes.

The Eucharist is disgusting in another way. It “re-presents” the sacrifice of Christ, so that Jesus is sacrificed over and over again on the altars of Romanism. This makes light of the fact that Jesus declared on the cross, “It is finished” (Jn 19:30) because he offered himself once for all (Heb 7:27). There is no need to offer sacrifices daily because Jesus took care of all of that with the sacrifice of himself (Heb 10:11-14).

Finally, papal infallibility makes Roman Catholicism into a cult. The power of the pope to define doctrine ex cathedra, thus binding all Roman Catholics to that teaching for all time, is too much power to vest in one man. This is nothing less than an attack on the sufficiency of Scripture in faith and practice.

I’m not a Protestant out of mere preference, as James White suggests many are. I understand the theological issues that divide us from Roman Catholics. Ultimately, I know that Catholics aren’t saved because of what Rome teaches, but in spite of what Rome teaches.

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Matthew Bellisario and Mary

Posted by Cory Tucholski on September 2, 2008

Matthew Bellisario’s love for Dr. James White, a friend of this blog, is well documented. His attitude toward Dr. White is always charitable, so it is no wonder that Dr. White has never offered a reply to Bellisario’s comments. I will offer an answer for Dr. White in this short article to the latest diatribe by the Catholic Champion.

Bellisario has this to say about Mary:

Does the term co-mediatrix or co-redemtrix imply we are equating Mary as a fourth person of the Trinity? Obviously not, because the term does not imply anything of the sort. Co means with. If Mary participated in God’s plan of salvation, (which anyone who would deny this fact cannot call themselves a Christian) then she can be titled obviously a co-redemptrix, because she participated in God’s plan. I will say this plainly, it seems that [James] White is just (pardon my French) too damn stupid to understand what co means. Aside from all of this, this terminology has not been defined by the church as of yet.

Let’s first assume an Arminian perspective on salvation for the sake of argument. By virtue of human free will, we all would participate in our salvation by making a decision to follow Christ. Therefore, are we not all Co-Redeemers in salvation by this logic?

But, like James White, I follow the Reformed view of salvation, which means that salvation is solely God’s work. We mere humans do not participate in it. Whatever you believe about Mary, she was a mere human and not divine. Therefore, she does not participate in salvation in any way–to suggest otherwise is blasphemous.

White says that it is blasphemous to ask the Blessed Mother to pray for us, to intercede for us. Is it? Then I ask why in the world does every ancient Liturgy have petitions to her? You see, White knows that when it comes to the Church and her Liturgies he has no defense of for his outlandish heretical rants. The Liturgies of the Church show us plainly that Christians of the early centuries gave the Blessed Theotokos praise, and they asked for her intercession.

Livias in the 6th century wrote, “Raised to heaven, she remains for the human race an unconquerable rampart, interceding for us before her Son and God.” Theoteknos of Livias, Assumption 291(ante AD 560),in THEO,187

Sixth century isn’t “early.” Bellisario offers nothing in his entire post earlier than this quote to back up his assertion that the early Christians paid special attention to Mary. Prayer to Mary, and the Marian dogmas, are simply not traceable to apostolic times in any form. I have no doubt that Mary was held in special reverence, but I doubt very much that prayers were offered to her the way that the Catholic Champion suggests. Dr. White need not offer a defense for something that the other side has not sufficiently established as a fact.

Now lets also call out James White on his video regarding the liturgy and Transubstantiation in which I posted responses to a few months back? I flat out called him on his erroneous conclusions he formed from his “12 century” arguments on the tabernacle, the host elevation etc. He loves to attack Catholics and mock them on his blog and his radio show, yet he cannot defend his own foolish arguments. Where is he and his arrogant response on this? We are waiting.

If Bellisario is so anxious to call James White out, why doesn’t he call The Dividing Line? If Dr. White’s assertions are so foolish and easily refuted, why not embarrass him on his own podcast? That would prove once and for all that James White is not worthy of as many followers as he has and it would show all of his listeners that Catholicism is the way to go. Alas, I doubt that that will ever happen because we all know how it would really turn out and who the loser would be. We know that Dr. White would make Matthew Bellisario look like a complete idiot, and look good doing it.

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It’s Back!

Posted by Cory Tucholski on January 6, 2007

I finished my article on Catholic Mass and it is posted here. Enjoy!

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Lesson Learned: Always Verify Information

Posted by Cory Tucholski on January 3, 2007

I received the rough draft of my Catholic Mass article back from the webmaster of Got Questions Ministries. He was curious to know where I got the idea that the Eucharist wasn’t a re-sacrifice. He said that he talked to several Catholics and they all agreed that it was just that. So he wanted me to clarify the article.

Well, my source for that was none other than Father Mitch Pacwa. A brief summary of Fr. Pacwa’s credentials from Alpha & Omega Minsitries:

Fr. Pacwa has served on the faculties of Tennessee State University, Loyola University and the August University of Dallas, having taught such courses as Introduction to the Bible, Introduction to the Old Testament, Introduction to the New Testament, Hebrew I, II, III, IV and Masters Level Courses in The Psalms, The Writings of Saint Paul and The Johannine Writings. Fr. Pacwa also has abilites in 12 languages, including the Ancient Languages of Latin, Koine Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Ugaritic. He currently serves as Contributing Editor of “THIS ROCK” Magazine and the “TOUCHSTONE” Journal, in addition to hosting hi5 own regularly-aired television program on the Eternal Word Television Network. He is a!so [sic] seen often on “MOTHER ANGELICA LIVE.”

This isn’t someone that I thought I needed to verify. He is quoted here stating this of the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist:

Fr. Pacwa continues by stating that in John 1:29; John the Baptizer states: “Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” The mass is a remembrance, and the sacrifice is Jesus who delivered us from death to life.

But that just isn’t true. According to paragraph 1366 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, “The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross, because it is its memorial and because it applies its fruit.” The CCC goes on in paragraph 1367:

The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: “The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different.” “And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner. . . this sacrifice is truly propitiatory.”

God is timeless and has no need to again “make present” a sacrifice whose work is finished.

I have taken the article down for now in order to incorporate this new information, as well as add some additional information that I would like to have included before. It should hopefully be up by Friday.

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New Article

Posted by Cory Tucholski on January 2, 2007

Here is the study of Catholic Mass I did for Got Questions Ministires in its original form. From time to time, as I get time, I will update and expand it to include more information. An edited version will soon appear on their page. As always, enjoy!

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Mass in Latin?

Posted by Cory Tucholski on October 12, 2006

There are literally dozens of news stories being posted to Google from the BBC News, San Jose Mercury News, Telegraph.co.uk, and the Seattle Post Intelligencer (those last just today; there are more articles posted from October 10-11 as well!) on the Pope allowing for the celebration of the Tridentine Rite Mass without permission from the local ordinary.

I just said a bunch of words that people may not understand. So let’s back up and find out what these things are. First, the easy one: Ordinary. That is, the Bishop of the diocese in which a person lives. Normally, to celebrate a Rite (that is, style of Mass or worship service) other than the Rite under which you normally reside, the priest would need the permission of the ordinary. The Pope may soon circumvent this restriction and allow the Tridentine Rite to be celebrated unless the ordinary forbids it in writing, at the discretion of the parrish priest.

What is the Tridentine Rite? It is a fancy name for the Mass said in Latin. There are certain other conventions which are foreign to most younger Catholics, such as the celebrant kneeling facing the altar instead of the congregation. This, according to Roman Catholic tradition, is the way the Mass has been said for over 400 years prior to the Vatican II Council and it is the way that many Catholic conservatives would like the Mass to continue to be said.

I’m not Catholic, but I do attend Catholic Mass from time to time (since my family is Catholic). I, for one, would like to be able to understand what I’m hearing. Personally, I can’t worship in spirit and in truth, as Jesus commands, if I don’t know what is being said. I don’t like answering a celebrant who, for all I know, just told me to commit myself to the Dark Lord Voldemort and swear to be a Death Eater for All Time.

Okay, that’s sarcasm. But really, I can’t understand why anyone would be in favor of this. But, I will–ever the dutiful apologist–follow this story closely and report on it. This should prove to be very interesting.

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