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Another Atheist Double Standard

Posted by Cory Tucholski on July 2, 2009

I’ve been told that my answer to the final “proof” of God is Imaginary (here) is a non-answer because it involves personal experience. But, the WWGHA forums (the owners of the site God is Imaginary) have touted this post as proof positive that God is imaginary.

The problem? The post involves someone’s personal experience. How can that post be considered evidence for anything? If my answer is a nonanswer, then this post means nothing.

On the other hand, why should the man’s experience have led him to atheism? Why does he decry God for waiting to answer his prayer? The story makes it clear: God answered his prayer in an unexpected way, it just wasn’t soon enough.

This is par for the course for anyone who believes the crap on WWGHA and GII. God is only allowed to answer prayers in a specific box-like, automaton fashion and they must be answered immediately. And, moreover, God is not allowed to use intermediaries–the answer must miraculously drop out of the sky to be considered a bona fide answer to prayer.

The real reason this man is an atheist? He’s mad at God for waiting. I pray he gets over it.

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Jury Convicts Leilani Neumann

Posted by Cory Tucholski on May 23, 2009

It only took the jury four hours of deliberation to convict Leilani Neumann, mother of Madeline “Kara” Neumann, of second degree reckless homicide in the death of her daughter from untreated diabetes.

I believe in the power of prayer, but I believe that it is supplemental to competent health care. God works with and through our efforts, not in spite of us.

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The Power of Prayer Doubted Again

Posted by Cory Tucholski on February 20, 2009

Image by vjack via Flickr

Image by vjack via Flickr

It looks like the atheists have done it again–misunderstood the power of prayer. Vjack of Atheist Revolution and Daniel Florian of Unreasonable Faith have both written recently on this topic.

I guess they both see prayer as a magic gumball machine where the person pops in a quarter and gets a supernatural answer to his or her wish. But that’s not what prayer is at all. Prayer is a vehicle to offer yourself into God’s service, a two-way communication tool between you and God. It is a way to help yourself accept God’s will.

Make no mistake–prayer is powerful if used properly and understood properly. I’ve addressed the topic at some lengthe here and J.P. Holding has addressed the same topic here. Both of us conclude that prayer is not a magical thing that will automatically grant you anything that you wish for.

When are atheists going to stop assuming that the Bible teaches that you can get everything taht you want through prayer? And more than that, when are they going to think that they’ve proven something that no Christian knows when they point out that you can’t get everything you want in prayer?

What do you get out of prayer? Nothing that you want, but everything that you need.

Image via Unreasonable Faith

Image via Unreasonable Faith

I should note that I’ve also addressed the charges of why Christians have health insurance and visit the doctor here.

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Hit From Both Sides

Posted by Cory Tucholski on December 21, 2008

Normally, I don’t discuss politics on this blog. But I can’t resist mentioning the controversy that has surrounded President-elect Barack Obama’s decision to include Dr. Rick Warren, author of The Purpose-Driven Life and The Purpose of Christmas, in the inaugural ceremonies this January 20th. Obama is rapidly losing support of the atheist community for including Warren, as Warren stands against abortion (innocently called “reproductive rights” by those who don’t see it as murder) and gay marriage.

Oddly, Obama is in support of both gay marriage and abortion rights, two planks that won him little support among conservative Christians. This leads to the other side of this controversy: now conservative Christians are bashing Rick Warren for participating in the inaugural ceremonies! It seems that no one can win for losing in this debacle.

Personally, I think that this is a situation where people should put their politics aside. Rick Warren appearing at the Inauguration is not an endorsement of Obama’s position on abortion. Nor is Obama’s decision to include Warren meant to be a  slap in the fact to the gay community. Why can’t we put aside these issues that divide us for a day and pray together for the new President as he embarks on a difficult new journey?

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Religious Illiteracy

Posted by Cory Tucholski on December 2, 2008

I’ve been reading the book Religious Literacy by Stephen Prothero. It is truly an eye-opener. It has made me realize how much I don’t know about the world religions. I’m ignorant of even our closest neighbor, Judaism.

With a ministry such as mine, I should understand more about other world religions. It will help me deal with questions from people of other faiths.

So I thought I would start with Judaism. To this end, I have obtained two books, The Jewish Approach to God by Rabbi Neil Gillman and An Introduction to Judaism by Nicholas de Lange.

Gillman’s book, as well as other exchanges recently, have started me thinking about Reformed theology. In the introduction to The Jewish Approach to God, Gillman says:

In Christian thinking, that human failure is inherent in human nature, one of the results of human sin, Adam’s rebellion against God in the Garden of Eden as recorded in Genesis 3. That blemish is transmitted from one generation to another to all of humanity through the sexual act. Jesus’ vicarious death on the Cross then represents God’s gracious gift, which erases original sin and grants salvation to the believer who accepts Jesus’ saving act.

But in Jewish sources, the very fact that the prophets urge the people of Israel to unblock their hearts, to open their eyes, to remove the obstacles that get in the way of their relation to God suggests that this is more a matter of will, not at all inherent in human nature. The Jewish claim, then, is that their is no inherent epistemological obstacle to recognizing God’s presence in the world. [p. x]

Since Christianity originated from the Jewish religion, Jewish thought plays a prominent role in early Christian philosophy and theology. The very reason that I started with Judaism was that, as our forerunner, I thought that Jewish theology would help me understand where the New Testament writers were coming from. If Gillman is correct in his assertion here, then that means that the New Testament writers were never teaching original sin, and that my recent opponent was correct in stating original sin is false doctrine.

However, I already know the answer to this dilemma. Scripture contains progressive revelation, which means that the New supersedes the Old. Original sin is taught in the New Testament, especially in Romans 5. That, then, takes the place of the Jewish philosophy of sin in someone’s life being a matter of will rather than a matter of nature.

In any case, I pray that God use this book to bring me to a closer understanding of him. As I learn more, I’ll post some additional thoughts.

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Wafergate

Posted by Cory Tucholski on July 20, 2008

I’ve been reading the response to PZ Myers’s unfortunate blog post.  It has been dubbed many things, but the one I like is “Wafergate,” which is what I will stick to in this post.  I think that this issue is getting far more attention than it deserves, as PZ Myers is little more than a bitter and sour little man with an insanely popular blog.  I can’t understand his popularity, even with atheists, because each of his virulent posts reveals nothing but hatred for religion.  Such focused and intense hatred isn’t good for a person.

For the benefit of those of you that have no idea what is going on, let me start from the beginning.  Webster Cook, a University of Florida student, palmed a Eucharist at a Catholic Mass instead of eating it.  He took it out of the chapel and held it hostage for several days. Read the rest of this entry »

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Faith Healing

Posted by Cory Tucholski on June 18, 2008

Regular readers will note that I have been following the case of Madeline “Kara” Neumann, an 11-year old girl who died as a result of parental negligence.  Her parents refused to seek medical attention for their daughter, instead relying on prayer to heal her.  It appears to have happened again, this time in Oregon to a 16-year old boy.  No cause of death is ruled yet; an autopsy is planned and the parents are being investigated for negligence.

They are connected to a church that calls itself Followers of Christ, which isn’t linked to any mainstream denomination.

With all of my talk about parents rightly being charged for praying only and not seeking outside medical attention, readers must think that I have no respect for the power of prayer.  That just isn’t true–I have nothing but the utmost respect for the power of prayer, but I’m realistic enough to know that in most cases, prayer has zero statistical effect on the outcome of illness.  With this empirical data in front of me, I have no choice but to face the possibility that prayer is not meant for medical conditions.  Prayer, therefore, is for our own consolation in accepting God’s will for a given situation.  Prayer is meant to change us, not change God.

This isn’t a dreadful conclusion; rather, this is liberating.  It means that we can seek medical help and it isn’t a sin.  It means that God works his healing powers through secondary causes, the doctors and nurses involved in patient care.

What about all of the promises to answer prayer?  Well, simply put: none of it promises an affirmative answer.  None of it promises to deliver our wants.  God promises to hear us–and hear us only.  He promises to take care of our needs, not our wants.  We only receive what we want in accordance with his will.

Prayer should never go by itself.  Prayer should always be associated with action on our part.  For example, if I pray for a new job, a new job will not drop onto my lap unless I read want ads and apply for jobs.  Same goes for healing–unless you seek medical attention, odds are worse illness will beset the victim, and then, perhaps, death.

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Charge Against Neumanns Survives Motion to Dismiss

Posted by Cory Tucholski on June 11, 2008

The charge against Madeline Neumann’s parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, survived a motion to dismiss on Tuesday.  A judge has ordered that they will stand trial, ruling that sufficient evidence exists for the charges to stick and for the couple to mount a defense.

Dale and Leilani Neumann have been charged with second-degree reckless homicide in the death of their 11-year old daughter Madeline (Kara).  Kara’s condition, a treatable form of diabetes, deteriorated over the course of a month until she was unable to speak or eat within the last 48 hours of her life.  Her parents stayed by and prayed instead of seeking medical attention.

Prayer has worked miracles, to be sure, but usually in conjunction with medical attention.  It is my sincere prayer that this tragedy is used by God to bring some good into the lives of everyone touched by it.

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Brian Sapient Punched Out

Posted by Cory Tucholski on June 10, 2008

There are several rumors circulating that Brian Sapient, co-founder of the Rational Response Squad, has been brutally attacked at the American Humanist Association’s conference by Greydon Square, another member of the RRS. Apparently, the two had a disagreement over the way Sapient was handling Square’s CD sales, and Square beat Sapient. An ambulance had to be called.

There is no official word, as yet, from the RRS. Hambydammit, a core member, would neither confirm nor deny it to an interested party on the RRS forums, instead Hamby repeatedly told the inquirer to mind his own business.

Whatever my personal differences with Brian Sapient, he didn’t deserve to be attacked by Greydon Square. Square has legal methods to work out business disputes if he was unhappy with Sapient handling his affairs. Square acted like a spoiled little child. He needs to do some serious growing up.

Meanwhile, my prayers are with Sapient and Kelly this evening. Hopefully Brian has a speedy recovery. Pray also that the Lord has bigger plans for Brian Sapient than atheist activist.

UPDATE: This attack has been confirmed by Brian Sapient here in this thread at the RRS discussion board.

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Wisconsin Law Might Excuse Madeline Neumann’s Parents

Posted by Cory Tucholski on May 20, 2008

If my little girl is sick, she goes to the doctor.  I pray for God to use the doctor to heal my daughter.

I don’t pray and hope it all gets better.

But that’s exactly what the parents of Madeline Neumann did, and now they are charged with reckless homicide.

There may be a sang, however.  Wisconsin has a law on the books that says a caregiver cannot be charged with a crime if they select prayer as the basis of treatment.

The way I’m reading that law, however, is that prayer must be the basis of treatment, not the only thing that you do.  Therefore, the parents are still liable for the death.  Though the law may not apply at all in homicide cases, according to District Attorney Jill Falstad.

It will be interesting to hear the judges’ rulings on the law.

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