Celebration of Atheist Women **DELETED**
After I wrote this, I got to thinking that my post, “Celebration of Atheist Women,” is out of step with what I have written in this lengthy refutation. In other words, I have just said that others should step lightly on sarcasm in regard to outsiders, when I have failed to live up to that ideal. The post that resided here was nothing but sarcasm, directed mainly at Nicole Smallkowski and Kelly from RRS. This only makes me a hypocrite if I defend my own use of it while condemning other people who use it. I would also be guilty of using “special pleading,” a logical fallacy that many Christians like to fall back on. I will make no effort to defend the practice when used by anyone–even me–toward an outsider.
But I can’t undo what has already been done. All I can do is admit that I was wrong for posting what I did, and then move forward taking care to not repeat the same mistake.
I have re-opened the comments section, if anyone would like to take a mean swipe at me. I will follow Jesus’ advice in Matthew 5:39.
Ummm, how does one celebrate athiesm? I mean, it is the belief in nothing, so how does one celebrate nothing? I suppose by doing nothing. Which makes me wonder. If I am sitting alone, doing nothing, am I celebrating athiesm? Yikes–since I am a Christian as well I better never be caught doing nothing as it might affect my witness.
And that makes about as much sense as a celebration of a nonbelief.
By the way, I’m celebrating not being a Buddhist tomorrow morning by going to Church.
-Murphy
All of my life, it’s been the simple things that have perplexed me, and often times with no one there to help. It got frustrating at times.
Perhaps I can be of some help here.
The title doesn’t say:
“A Nod to the Ladies” – Scientists
“A Nod to the Ladies” – Actresses
“A Nod to the Ladies” – Teens
It just says “A Nod to the Ladies”
Hope I was of some assistance!
Mark Gaffney
By the way-
I hope your job situation changes for the better soon. Mine isn’t doing that well either. Hopefully this economic pothole will pass quickly.
I think the condescension implicit in your reference to the “teenager” and “ex-stripper” contrasts greatly with what I would expect from a true “Follower of Christ.” Did Jesus not ‘indentify with sexually exploited women and kneel in the sand with one against her accusers?’
It seems to me a very Christian thing to treat every human like he or she is as valuable as every other. Each one of us has the same right for redemption and forgiveness before the Lord and even a right to be featured in the same YouTube video. It is ironic, (don’t you think), that you should be criticizing the enlightened treatment of women, simply because it is done in Christ-like fashion but not in the Name of Christ.
(I also wish you the best with your job situation.)
Kind regards,
sophie
Cory Tucholski has been challenged to a chat room “double cross-ex” format debate:
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/10/chat-room-debate-challenge-to.html
Isaac Newton was an Arian, not a Christian, by the way:
“Close though he was to deism, Newton differed from the strict deists insofar as he invoked God as a special physical cause to keep the planets in stable orbits. He believed in biblical prophecies, but rejected the doctrines of the Trinity and Incarnation as irrational.”
http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=143
“Newton is generally thought to have been Arian, not holding to Trinitarianism. He listed “worshipping Christ as God” in a list of “Idolatria” in his theological notebook.”
(Wikipedia article; cites the book The Life of Isaac Newton, by Richard S. Westfall, Cambridge U Press, 1993 [p. 124], in support of the latter assertion)
See also the article: “On Newton and the Trinity,” John Byl:
http://www.geocentricity.com/ba1/no77/newton-b.html
How ironic that Newton is considered a Christian, when he denies the Trinity and the Deity of Christ. But I as a Catholic enthusiastically confirm (and defend) both of those beliefs and I am no Christian, according to you.
Must be quite a spectacle for any atheists who visit here to behold . . .
“confirm” above should be “affirm” . . .
Interesting. I’m not God. I don’t judge whether people are Christians or not. If you have saving faith in Jesus Christ, and in Him alone, then you are a Christian.
The difference between you and me, Dave, is that I wouldn’t throw denomination in someone’s face. I’m a Calvinist. My wife is a Wesleyan. It causes no disagreements.
If atheists have no trouble considering Fred Phelps a Christian, then I don’t see why they’d have any trouble with Newton.
I knew I should have put St. Thomas Aquinas as my other example.
I don’t see why they’d have any trouble with Newton.
Because a Christian is one who thinks that Jesus is God and believes there are three Persons in the Godhead (Bible, Nicene Creed, Athanasian Creed). If Newton denied the Trinity and the Incarnation alike, how can he be a Christian? Brilliant scientist, but no Christian . . .
An atheist can know this just as well as any Christian, because it is a matter of elementary definition.
If you want to associate Newton with yourself as a brother in Christ, then by the same token you ought to worship at your local Kingdom Hall as well, since they (Jehovah’s Witnesses) believe basically as he did.
Athiests believe in nothing?
Well I believe in freedom. I believe that christianity is a real danger to humanity. It offers a sweet poisoned apple of madness and false contentment. it has ruined our public schools and our government. Infected our young with fairy tales as fact. Punished those who challenge their insane doctrine.
I believe in truth and there is not much in that racid book you call the Bible.As for your Bible it is dipping in the blood of the innocent down through the ages to the present.
I believe alot of things.
But I know you and yours are truly insane and that you will never share this planet with men like me or my family. Beware the Christians!
“I really just thought it was funny for a teenager and an ex-stripper to be juxtaposed next to one of the greatest scientists of all time.”
Let me lend you some help here. The video was on women who are atheists. To be in the video, you have to be a woman, and an atheist. It doesn’t matter what occupation you are. Really, it’s not that hard to understand.
Atheism is the belief that God, whether you call him Yahweh, Jesus, or whatever, is as likely as Allah, Zeus, Odin, Shang-Ti, Amon-ra and so on. Most likely, that are all fictional althought there is no way of disproving an invisble being with magical powers. It’s not a belief in “nothing.”
Yeah, I kinda figured that out on my own, thanks much. Because I’m a Christian, am I not allowed to be amused by the side-by-side placement of two people who have done nothing to advance society with someone who won multiple Nobel prizes?
“Yeah, I kinda figured that out on my own, thanks much. Because I’m a Christian, am I not allowed to be amused by the side-by-side placement of two people who have done nothing to advance society with someone who won multiple Nobel prizes?”
- Being an Atheist Advances Society.-
One has only to look at the demographics of the federal prisons in America to see this. I won’t even go into the (quite literally) uncountable other indicators that show this to be true(both in America and worldwide) This has gone from the realm of speculation, to being a fact.
Past & Present, there was no shortage of Atheist women that I could have used to occupy 6 minutes of music. All are personal favorites of mine, or were needed to make a point. I had never heard of Nina Hartley till I was digging around, … and with the (oh so obvious) sexual issues the religious have, Nina HAD to be in it.
In a country that was set up to protect us all from religious persecution, you’d think the religious would catch a clue. Nicole was IN.
The religious have been particularly cruel to women thru the centuries, and it continues still. This inadequate, pathetic little video has no hope of expressing the deep admiration I have for all women, especially the SANE ones.(Read Atheist)
If you’d like to know why any of the others were used, feel free to ask.
Mark Gaffney
msginca@yahoo.com
Almost forgot,
I for one, have no problem with you being amused at an ex-porn star, a horrible little girl who refused to pray, and one of the most brilliant scientists to have ever lived, being in the same video together. Further more, I defend your right to be amused by that,
… I just think you should consider the larger picture.
Chester: Thank you for making my point–Atheists do believe is something–they are staunchly and rabidly anti-Christian. Oddly, Christianity, which is constantly attacked by the anti-God crowd is the only religion that teaches that ALL people should be loved by Christians as we love ourselves. It is also the only religion that teaches us to love our enemies.
The message of Christianity is hope, love and the gift of eternal life. Sorry you see it as destructive. But of course, if you truly don’t believe in an after-life–how is it destructive to teach people to be good to one another and love each other in this one? Even if it is a “fairy tale”—it is a good one and one with a great message. The real root of atheism is pride and self-control–Atheists don’t like the idea that someone (GOD) other than themselves is actually sovereign.
By the way–unless you are reaching back into very ancient history–the only people punishing others for not believing their doctrine are Muslims….and Atheists who march around the US trying to yank God from every corner of our society because they are “offended.”
-Murphy
“Murphy Klasing Says:
Chester: Thank you for making my point–Atheists do believe is something–they are staunchly and rabidly anti-Christian. Oddly, Christianity, which is constantly attacked by the anti-God crowd is the only religion that teaches that ALL people should be loved by Christians as we love ourselves. It is also the only religion that teaches us to love our enemies.
The message of Christianity is hope, love and the gift of eternal life. Sorry you see it as destructive. But of course, if you truly don’t believe in an after-life–how is it destructive to teach people to be good to one another and love each other in this one? Even if it is a “fairy tale”—it is a good one and one with a great message. The real root of atheism is pride and self-control–Atheists don’t like the idea that someone (GOD) other than themselves is actually sovereign.
By the way–unless you are reaching back into very ancient history–the only people punishing others for not believing their doctrine are Muslims….and Atheists who march around the US trying to yank God from every corner of our society because they are “offended.”
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The above statement, when compared with *actual reality*, exemplifies a condition know as “Malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder” … Malignant indicating incurable.
You have my Sincere Condolences
Mark Gaffney
msginca@yahoo.com
Atheists come in all shapes and sizes, they are different, they are individuals like all people. The main point of this video is to show, that it does not matter if you are an Actor Katherine Hepburn or a Woman of Science Marie Curie. You should be proud of who you are…..a girl who politically declined to pray is very brave in my opinion. It is so easy to want to fit in, to become a part of mainstream society. But when you protest that takes courage. As a Christian you should know the feeling of going against the grain of Secular Society. Now, if you still do have any empathy in your heart. Imagine yourself in her place and see what you would feel like. Atheists can be ex-strippers, they can be teenage basketball players, they can Anthropologists, they can be Chemists and they can be Lawyers.
If you do not realize the point that he was trying to make, that atheists come from all different walks of life. Then you have truly embraced the willfull ignorance that comes with faith. To the point where you disregard ART!!! if it does not fit your views on faith and proper culture. I mean I can understand why Religious people would not like science, because science is corrosive to faith and makes you into an “evil baby-killing fag-enabling” liberal. But come on now, I hope I enlightened you a little about the simple concepts of self-expression, formerly known as Art.
Be well, Live Life and Have fun.
Murphy - Atheism is actually lack of belief in god, gods and godlets.
But with that we all have our own seperate beliefs and ideas and experiences. As humans we agree on common things, like Fun is good and killing is bad. Atheists are the most misunderstood minority in America and that is why we feel that sometimes we have to celebrate who we are. Similar to the gay-pride parades or african american festivals.
Murphy - If that was the only thing Christianity was about, then consider me Christian. I love others as I love myself. I try my best to help those who can’t help themselves. The reason I don’t believe in God is because, there is no empirical evidence for it. It is not because I hate sovereignity, I just don’t believe the idea of deity to be true. That’s it!!
btw, the Root of my Atheism is too much compassion.
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